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My props are bigger than yours!

I have finally got my foot in my work boot and hobbled round site this week to find an exciting progression at the end of the basement.  The diagonal props are in, the excavation completed, piles have been munched and the walers, bracing frames and thrust blocks are going in.  To add to the excitement I keep hearing concerned conversations in the office between the basement section engineers about how the sheet piling has moved 20mm and is only allowed to move 5mm more and that a thrust block has been cast touching one of the piles and may need to be ripped out.  All the talk about deflections, passive forces, failure and other key engineering terms attracted my attention and would make very interesting work if I wasn’t OIC drains, power, water, comms and road!
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Back in the world of utilities, this week has been dominated by the incoming HV cables and Battersea Park Road Wall.  2 weeks ago it was decided that the electricity providers SSE were to bring the incoming ducts to the HV substation we had built.  Last week they decided that they didn’t fancy burrowing under the brick wall and the Employers Agent T&T decided to send us a Request For Change at around 1800 Hrs the day before Good Friday.  The wanted us to dig a trial hole to find the foundations of the 2m high antique wall, cat scan the area outside the wall on the footpath and then tunnel under the wall to meet the incoming service trench.  I started looking at this on Tues and realised that their new proposition would remove manpower from our Network Rail Access Road work, involve getting permits to work on the footpath and then require a specialist to look into supporting the wall whilst tunnelling underneath which would also involve more TW designs, RAMS, etc.  I spoke to our project director about it and he pulled out the big guns and sent it back saying it will take us 6 weeks (the power needs to be on by 1st May!). So this made my Client Utilities meeting extremely fun yesterday which I was left to chair on my own by Carillion.  I went for the good old simple squaddie approach and suggested knocking the wall down as part of it was getting knocked down already and after much debate everyone decided that was probably the best plan.  I then went out with the Buro Happold Design Engineer and we started to formulate a plan to give to the client.  With things going seemingly well the installer from SSE threw a spanner in the works today saying that he was still working to the first revision of the drawing (we are on number 8!) and that he must bring the cables into site at 45 degrees not the 90 degrees.  Cue another 45 minutes looking at the wall debating the best way to do it and not mess up the water incoming water supply or the yet to be built comms pits and ducting.  I think we now have a very inefficient solution to knock down a part of the wall, bring the HV in and worry about the water and comms. Here is the wall of doom, HV was meant to come in on the left near the substation, then water in the centre and comms on the right. Now the HV is going to come in on the right, go straight over and next to the water (to make it nice and lukewarm for everyone no doubt) and comms TBC!
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So why is getting things through a wall so difficult? Well my meeting uncovered a few issues; firstly a gap in scope where Buro Happlod have been contracted to design to the meter/substation/comms pits near the boundary wall and the incoming supplies were design by others. Secondly the client’s agent T&T have failed to get the utilities companies on board early enough to detail how and what needed to be done to get their kit into the site. Thirdly, Carillion and Buro Happold have been revising drawings but not as a request for change from the client which is why the utilities companies are 7 revisions behind. So despite their being no technical engineering issues I have been baffled by contractual language and experienced first hand the great arguments behind who will eventually be to blame/will pay for it when the power doesn’t go on in time!

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  1. 25/04/2014 at 8:52 am

    A couple of thisns…well one new thing and a reprise of an old thing…

    An APB to all …….. on Phase 1 ….were you made aware of the influence utilities have on civil engineering work..?
    If ‘Y’ …no further comment required
    If ‘N’ from what you have experienced what should be added?

    OK new over

    On the wall ….well i refer you to a previous ramble whaih I repeat (near) full below

    I spent a day with a sheet piling outfit last week….nice guys, but they were giving clients deformation esitmates from software…and not to put too fine a point on it …..didn’t really have a clue why different approachs to limit state design were ‘estimating’ difference deformations….and pointing to the stiffest response and ….using that…FIne, in the respect that they were using experience but ….on discussion it tuned out that at least one client was suing for ‘over-deformation’…..well well well

    Providing deformation limits of 12mm is a nonsense in geotechnical engineering…anyone with half an education would know that. But commerical pressures forces such cack. Saying something like- probably less than 20mm might…just might…be sensible
    If limits around 10mm are absolutely necessary ( and I wouldn’t know why) then the observational method would have to be in operation

    In short to model wall dispalcement …at all … you need a soil structure interaction piece of software and an estimate of …wait for it…soil stress….run for your lives!

    So a 2mm limit …..( and the rest is in the tone of my recollections of my own stroppy teenagaer) …really…I mean really?

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    painter789
    26/04/2014 at 4:35 pm

    Angela

    Good to see you back out on site. When you have a few more weeks under you belt I must come up and visit. Maybe a few of us will visit.

    Getting out of the ground is always a tricky part!!!

    Kind Regards

    Neil

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