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Handy – from Phase 1

I thought I would post a quick note to mention something from Ph1 that I have continually found to be useful, from a civils point of view obviously. Quite a lot of my time on site is centered on rebar drawings, which can seem fairly impenetrable. Although it was only around a days worth of taught time in Ph1, and incorporated into a design exercise, the lesson on reinforcement detailing has continually proved invaluable in allowing me to add some value and hence afforded me some credibility on site. Don’t get me wrong, I haven’t had to DO any detailing (yet), but understanding how I could means that I can read the drawings and conduct checks.

Multiple Drawings

Following on from that I picked up an error in some rc walls the other day which are going to house some utilities. The rc chambers are being built to hold pumps and ‘stuff’ which will tie into main water tanks (chilled and non potable). The water tanks are steel and are off the shelf, arriving at the CUP at a later date. What’s interesting, in inverted commas, about the error is why I picked it up. I was using shop drawings, for which no contract drawings exist as the tanks were not part of the original design work. (There is simply a bit in the specs saying that there are tanks required and that the Principal Contractor (PC) is responsible for sourcing them.)­­­­ The PC was using an updated set of field drawings. These are typically slightly different to the contract drawings in as much as they account for the amount of steel that is going into whatever feature of work it is they are for. A cut from the drawings I was using are below, with the offending bar highlighted in red.

Excerpt from PC Shop Drawings

Excerpt from PC Shop Drawings

That bar, is a 5/8” diameter. (annotated ‘#5’) bar which should go on each corner, as you can see in wall W-02, with the remaining bars being number 4’s (#4) which are ½” diameter. On site #4s had been used all the way across. I was able to ascertain that the #5s hadn’t been called out on the field drawings, which is an error on the part of whoever produced those drawings. So the error arose, and was caught by the fact that multiple versions of the same drawings existed. If we had both had the most up to date drawings the error may have slipped by.   I guess the lessons here are try to always obtain the most up to date drawings, and ensure that they are correct! This brings me onto another point…

 

RFI Tracking

… How does everyone else keep track of the RFI’s and various changes that occur to the contract drawings? When I go out and conduct checks I always take the contract drawings and the field set. Before I go out though I have to print out the relevant contract drawing and highlight the RFIs and amendments to it in pen, using a hardcopy set of drawings onto which all RFIs and amendments are noted as they come in. A picture of what on earth I am talking about is below.

Mandraulic Updates on Conformed Contract Drawings

Mandraulic Updates on Conformed Contract Drawings

This is a drawing from one of my last checks. In pen are the RFI numbers and where they relate to. (ignore the bits in black, they are notes from the inspection itself) Before I go out I have to read what the RFI was and what the amendment is. Fairly laborious. Now, the pc who is clearly doing fairly well for itself has deigned it more productive to supply all its engineers with iPhones and iPads, with indestructible cases. They are all therefore able to download any drawing whilst on site. All their field drawings are updated by CAD Wallahs and replace old copies as RFI changes occur. Since the government doesn’t have CAD Wallahs its contract drawings don’t get the same treatment so we are stuck on the original conformed set, with ever increasing notes and cross references to RFI numbers.

Since everyone else is working for high flying engineering contractors I am curious, how do you do it?

LEED

 

As I suspected in my last blog the LEED issue has reared its head again. I sent back a submittal ‘E’ coded (re-show) for not having the required third party certification showing VOC levels. The pc called, stating that the manufacturer doesn’t have third party certification, nor is it willing to get it for one product on one job because it costs c. $30k. I suspect that the pc is less than enthused about paying either. From a government point of view and on reading through the specifications there is a very clear requirement for certification. As far as I am concerned it is the contractor’s responsibility to obtain the certificates, a point I will articulate. However, in the interest of not being a complete douche about the situation, and in the interest of maintaining positive relations I am currently investigating an ‘out’ for them. I know that any material that is installed out of LEED compliance can be ‘offset’ through focusing on the installation of super low VOC content material in the vicinity of the non-conforming material. What I am less clear on is whether this is for accidentally installed material, or as would be the case here deliberately placed material. I have sent the question to a LEED appointed person who sits with the client for their consideration. Another option I will table is the use of a different material altogether. The problem with this is that I have absolutely no input / exposure to the procurement process where I am at present. I don’t really know if this is a stupid recommendation but I will speak with someone at the pc end and ask, since we are currently on talking terms!

And finally

 

This is a picture from the historic Ft McHenry. It is where inspiration for the Star Spangled Banner comes from and is the site of an unsuccessful British attack. The bridge in the distance, which you can just about make out, is where the British Ships bombarded the fort from, retreating, presumably, when they got bored.  The distance to the bridge was slightly further than the reach of the canons in the foreground, but just about the maximum range of the British canons.

Fort McHenry

Fort McHenry

I tabled the idea of a future OPD event to the newly arrived District Commander that we should do a battlefield study about how the Brits could do it better next time.

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  1. 27/07/2015 at 10:59 am

    Brad – Our RFI system is managed at a project level. The RFI register is held my the design co-ord (kind of like a central PM) and he tracks and chases them. When RFIs are answered he ensures that all the relevant people are copied in to the response. If the change is a quick one hit wonder then it is captured as a stand alone doc and digitally attached to the original doc/as builts (when they get done) however if the RFI is more important then WSP (our designer) almost always answer in the form of an amended drawing. All we have to do is check the daily register (auto populated with push notification) and work from most current drawing.

    On the whole the system works pretty well however I must stress that we are generally only submitting RFIs to out designer and have very few M&E issues with multiple inputs.

    • 27/07/2015 at 11:17 am

      I have just uploaded one of the DWGs we RFI’d last month.

      PS. I couldn’t agree more with your comment on re-bar. I spend a portion of each day starring at crazy tartan grids.

  2. 28/07/2015 at 5:46 pm

    Brad, I might be simplifying this but effectively we have an online system which is the single source for all drawings (called ASite). When a new drawing is issued those in the distribution chain are notified. Each new issue (either design update or answer to an RFI) get uploaded with the relevant Construction number (C01, CO2, etc). That way we have one set of drawings which is always up to date.

    Why are you re-producing field drawings, surely contract drawings are the document you should be using.

    Also agree with you and Olly – Being able to read RC drawings is key to understanding what is being built. I would not put Phase 1s off, more emphasise that the day’s (hour’s) lesson on it has proven to be very useful.

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      29/07/2015 at 4:26 pm

      Damo, Olly – Thanks for the info. I take out the Field drawings and contract drawings. It helps sometimes to see what drawings the contractor is working off. My intent wasn’t to put the guys off, far from it. I thought it was a good lesson, one to pay attention in.

  3. 29/07/2015 at 6:13 pm

    Damo, Just to pick up on what you said. How do you track RFIs that do not require a new DWG to be issued?

    • 29/07/2015 at 7:21 pm

      Hi Olly, due to the early stage of the project that situation has not arisen yet. Can you give an example of an rfi not requiring a re-issue?

  4. 30/07/2015 at 8:52 am

    Damo, We regularly have RFIs that don’t require DWGs to be reissued. They are normally either material related (is XXX material appropriate? can we alter the specified material to XXX?) or concerned with our as-builts (the started bars were trimmed too short, will changing the splice location have an effect on the next stag of fixing? in this case the answer was yes so we were directed to use coupler however no drawing was required).

    In these cases we record the RFI in a register and the response is disseminated to all relevant parties and digitally attached to the as-builts. I think this is the real weakness in the system as information is held by people.

    Does that help?

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