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First Impressions: Muddy hole!

Prior to Christmas the Groundworks contractor took the level down to 150mm above formation and handed over to concrete contractor (PC Harrington of Southbank slipform fame). Concrete contractor took down to formation level, but had no intention to blind for an additional 3 days, despite direction to cover within 4 hours. Shear vane tests had been directed by the designer (Arup) which could not be conducted immediately, thus the contractor’s reasoning for the delay. Due to concern for the quality of the surface material at formation level – it’s London clay and tends to suffer from surface cracking if left to dry out and turns into an ice rink when wet – the contractor was instructed to blind immediately but leave holes for the test to be conducted. Seems strange that a specific test was specified other than “test for this property”, but it’s my first day and what do I know? I haven’t got a computer or a log on yet, let alone a clue what’s going on!

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A real digger!

Day 2 and I witnessed a group of hairy Irishmen with their asses hanging out of their trousers (one for John) attempt to put a very large, prefabricated RC cage into hole. It didn’t fit. For 2 reasons: the hole was square, the cage wasn’t; and when the piles were cut down all the rebar was bent all over the place and wouldn’t fit through the spaces between the rebar. They got it in eventually but if Harry had seen how he’d have probably had kittens! It’s led to some cover issues. The rebar is touching the blinding round the hole in places, this probably isn’t an issue since it’s a tower crane base, therefore temporary, therefore the durability is unlikely to be a problem. But PCH are the problem children on site so we’re not given them an inch at this early stage. So the contractor will have to do some localised breaking out of the blinding to ensure correct cover, mostly since they have no idea what strength of concrete was used when they poured the blinding! They’ve learnt from it and the steel fixers will make the other 4 in the hole – sensible!

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Tower crane footing

Today (Friday) I was sent onto site to hold the hand of a Geo Engineer from Arup (they must have heard of my fondness for quiche). He came to observe some shear vane tests on the foundation level clay prior to the blinding being poured. The minimum required value was 40kPa. The very lowest of our results was 120kPa. Does this mean the basement slab, sheet piling, pile shaft resistance and anything else that might have been based on cu is massively overdesigned? I tried to gently probe the area by asking questions, but didn’t get very far, the bloke looked about 12 and a bit scared that anyone had asked him a question with the word “overconsolidation” in it, all I got was that c’ was taken as about 25 (comment John?). Afterwards the Chartered Engineer on site asked me how I’d remembered things like Atterburg limits, I told him what we did last week and he looked horrified. I think I’ll be babysitting the Geo bloke every time from now on. Ahh well, at least it’s not making the brews!

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Shear vane test

By the end of the week I finally have a computer, a log on and a McAlpine fleece, but still no clear idea of what I’ll be doing. Very TBC but it looks like I may be responsible for QA on Tower cranes, basement raft slab and, most excitingly, slipforming! Looks like I’d better dig back through Rich Hall’s blogs!

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  1. petermackintosh's avatar
    petermackintosh
    16/02/2015 at 6:02 am

    Nice blog Guz, but whats the project you’re on?

    Putting a prefab reo cage onto piles can be very tricky, the idea was considered on my site but with the tolerances during pile installation it wasn’t worth it – what type of piles have you got? If they were mangled when breaking out the reo then a pile cropper may be a good option (if the concrete isn’t too strong, and there isn’t too much reinforcement in there). Joe found them to be great on his site. We tried a cropper on my site, but the pre-tensioned piles just laughed at the cropper. We ended up using a hydraulic breaker on an excavator till about 100mm from the cut off level, then guys with jackhammers to tidy it up.

    If its a sub contractor doing the work and they make a mess of the starter bars keep an eye on how they bend them back – are they heating the bars to bend them, or bending them cold? I’m guessing it will depend on the size of the starter bars coming out of the pile. If they use heat check to see that they use heat crayons to ensure they hit the right temperature and don’t overheat the bars.

    • guzkurzeja's avatar
      guzkurzeja
      16/02/2015 at 3:56 pm

      Hello Pete, I’m working on the Earls Court redevelopment. We’re building 7 blocks of flats between 7 and 16 stories on what used to be the Earls Court/Chelsea FC overflow car park.

      We’ve got replacement reinforced concrete piles, the ones in question are for a tower crane base. They used a breaker here too, thus the mess. These were by far the worst on site and others aren’t so bad, but even so they’ll be constructing the reinforcement in situ from here on. They didn’t try to bend them back, that was part of the problem, if they had the cage might have fit!

      Thanks for getting back to me though, definite food for thought!

    • 21/02/2015 at 1:01 pm

      Pete, just backing you up from my experience in WA. Structural engineers were generally nervous that the bars were bent with heat due to the lack of accuracy in heating the bars and hence a more uncertain strength. Often a cold bend by ‘The big Irish lad’ was the best option. Depending on the importance of the connection we sometimes drilled and epoxied new bars into the column/pile to ensure that any strength lost during bending was recouped.

      Guz, on a financial bent, who is carrying the risk for any future issues with the connection? I agree that it will probably be Ok for the duration of use but best not to leave opportunity for ‘grey’ areas in the future. Good to see your site after train chats. Back into Whitehall tomorrow so may see you at the station (not saying I’ll speak to you, but I may see you).

  2. Richard Farmer's avatar
    Richard Farmer
    16/02/2015 at 10:29 am

    Great start to the blogging Guz! And a thoughtful comment Pete, particulalry wrt to heating of bars for bending althouyh most UK options seem to involve leverage and brut force as far as I’m aware (please tell me different folks). I’ll leave the potential for significant overxdesign to JM for comment. If you do go on to look at slip forming one aspect that might be of interest is the concrete specification esp. admixtures and the associated QA and QM ‘cos if it’s got wrong, or there’s a hicup in the slip, knowing what’s going on in the grey stuff can be pretty useful/comforting – a handy TMR topic I suspect.

    • guzkurzeja's avatar
      guzkurzeja
      16/02/2015 at 3:59 pm

      That’s a good point, I’ll look into that. We’ve also got loads of PT slabs going in too, so I’m sure there will be a TMR about the sexy grey stuff at some point!

  3. painter789's avatar
    painter789
    16/02/2015 at 6:00 pm

    Guz

    As I have already said make the most of this time to get abreast of roles and responsibilities, specs, contract, drawings etc.

    Glad your boots are getting dirty.

    Regards

    Neil

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